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Zen and motorcycles and innocence (17/02/14 20:39:47) Reply
    I've been pondering the differences between the motorcycle book (ZATAOMM)and the boat book (Lila). The motorcycle book appealed to me immediately - emotionally at first, but then because it combined pondering and philosofising with hardcore techniness. In my precommercial world research and industry is about methods - and success depends entirely on having control with the methods - the technology.

    I know now that this is a nave misunderstanding of the real workings of the world. The world is about marketing, about appearances, about being liked by one's superiors, about knowing people with money, about saying the right buzzwords.

    In Lila, I think, Pirsig goes more into society and leaves behind the navet and innocence of ZATAOMM. Society is about power. I love the internal logic of the nonpolitical world and shy away from the power struggles and boredoms of politics. Experiments are always honest: If they don't succeed, it's because I've made a mistake or because I lack understanding or both. No lip service from a failed experiment.

    I'm looking forward to reading


    I have a German translation. Look fascinating.

Re: Zen and motorcycles and innocence (17/02/14 22:45:14) Reply
    Dear e,
    >The world is about marketing, about...
    but there's one village...
    Heise, the publisher of c't, has since some time a new magazine, called c't hacks (http://www.heise.de/hardware-hacks/), with full of senseless (and therefore good ideas) to play with hardware.
    Spirit has not left the world, i hope

Re: Zen and motorcycles and innocence (03/03/14 22:44:30) Reply
    as i already told about pirsig, i found him too hard, too much arrogant and self-centered. his way is described almost like a religion, and i dont like that.

    i find irvin yalom much easier to read, less pretentious, and more human. (i am reading 'the schopenhauer cure').


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